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for freed african-americans who were living in the washington area. and they would make a big effort to impress lincoln. they would dress in their finest clothes. the men often wearing civil war uniforms both the gray and the blue they had gotten from battlefields and they would line up and sing spirituals and entertain him with these spirituals and he was so moved to tears often that a lot of the people often thought that this deepened his commitment to abolition and to emancipation. just being in the presence of the african-americans who had been slaves and talking to them but especially what became sort of quasi religious ceremonies that he was the center of. and he was, of course, sort of a semi religious figure among many freed slaves in those days. >> host: what strikes me when you go through all the presidents and, of course, you mentioned them all is isolation. you have a lincoln and you have an andrew johnson who were pretty much indifferent. to the flight of people of african descent. >> guest: yes. >> host: pretty -- the other is a class-based oscillation because you had p
Jul 5, 2011 1:00am EDT
african-americans who were living in the washington area. and they would make a big effort to impress lincoln. they could dress in their finest close. men wearing civil war, both the gray and the blue they got for battle fields. they'd line up and sing spirituals and entertainment with these spirituals. and he was so moved to tearing often that a lot of people around him thought this sort of deepened his commitment to abolition and to emancipation. just being in the presence of the african-americans had somebody slaves and talking to them. especially what became quasi religious ceremonies. he was sort of semireligious figure among freed slaves in those days. >> host: what strikes me when you go through all of the presidents and you mention them all is oscillation. you've got -- you have a lincoln and an andrew johnson. who was pretty much indifferent. he was to the plight of people of african-american descent. >> guest: yeah. the other oscillation is a class-based oscillation. you had people in the white house that served several. they could observe how people behaved towards people.
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is china. and, of course, we have a conversation about india and pakistan, the big piece of that we haven't talked about at all is china. you are of the view that some of the current almost hysteria about the rise of china and what it would mean for the long-term consequences to american power has been broadly over seed in the u.s. tell me why. >> guest: statistics. there are 1.3 billion people in china. 600 million of them live in households earning less than $3 a day. 440 million live in households earning between three and $6 a day. in other words, china over 80% of it lives in poverty that is sub-saharan. there's a china that has about 69 people. they have average income of $20,000 a year. which is the size of france. it's not a trivial number but it's less than 5% of china. that china cannot sell to china. they're trying to find ways to do. you can't sell pipettes to a person who earns $3 a day. they are the hostage of the way. a gun pointing at the head of china is the rising american savings rate. every dollar not spent at wal-mart is taken out of the chinese hide. the chinese are